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Deployment / 1Gb simple case deployment
« on: July 18, 2015, 12:01:49 PM »
Until now, setup for client has mostly been in the upstream of between 1mb to 10mb space. A client is requesting the possibility of a gigabyte setup. Hardware proposed is xeon 1540 (8 core), 128Mb ram and 2Tb SSD for both Core and Edge. Topology is:

Upstream bandwidth at NOC center STM-1 (155mb) - Wanos Core - PTP radio 1-----microwave-----PTP radio 2-Wanos Edge - LAN

Questions:
1. Is throughput above 200mb possible at edge?
2. If yes, what max through is to be expected on Wanos plus?
3. If not possible to go beyond 200mb, and speed thus is not an appreciable feature anymore in this setup, are other features such as Deduplication, Compression,Packet Loss Recovery, QoS etc, enough reason to go ahead?

Thank for the support as always.

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: February 02, 2015, 09:39:37 AM »
Still waiting for the skype details...

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 31, 2015, 04:26:14 PM »
Sure. Skype is fine, what day of the week would be convenient for you? May I suggest Monday? I'll live the time to you. You could suggest alternative days too, Saturdays and Sundays are equally fine.

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:50:33 AM »
Yes you're perfectly right. I retested by limiting the PTP link to 1mb and I could pull the exact 5mb at the other end and that very smoothly.
I was reflecting over the idea of moving wanos 1 to my provider but again I guess the result will be same as my initial test as they also place the bandwidth shaping on their router not on the high speed PTP radios.
Moving forward, I keep thinking on how people like me with high speed PTP can benefit from wanos and then I thought I should ask; are there some setting or tweaks that can be done to justify and take advantage of the platform even if throughput is not readily an immediate benefit? I am saying this because, I see a vast improvement in the network anytime both wanos are connected, no throughput increase as said but like I said from the beginning, any optimization would be a big plus to the network.

Lastly, knowing fully well that their might not be much visible throughput increase over high speed PTP (at least given my setup), so how do we move to plus so as not be limited by the 20mb and 64 GB limit on wanos free (hoping that optimization tweaks and all proves successful).

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 19, 2015, 06:47:44 AM »
The internet bandwidth capacity is really 5mb however I limited the bandwidth to 1mb from the gateway because well for one, the gateway is directly feeding the wanos 1 only one IP at 1/1mb, I guess I could as well be buying 1Mb from the provider to run the test and the provider will only limit to 1mb from their end which is pretty much the same 1/1mb coming from the gateway and their last mile delivery to my base is also via microwave radio.

The gateway feeds into wanos 1 directly and between the wanos device, the PTP bridge and the test PC, it's all gigabyte LAN speed all the way. The PTP radios has a phy rate of 1.7gb (about 800mb real throughput), there are no bandwidth limits nor shaping of any kind.

In the end, I intend to move WANOS 1 over to the provides data center and wanos 2 feed the gateway as the goal is to increase WISP backbone but the setup will pretty much be the same.
Could the result be because its on same LAN subnet?

Giving the current situation any advise on the way forward? I could change any setup to your advise.

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 18, 2015, 07:35:49 PM »
Spent all day testing today. Nothing was changed and all config was left in default except IP address for the WANOS device. The only output testing was result was obtain from speedtest.net. Setup was exactly as show in the diagram tittled 'setup'and test was done in high - high, high-low, low - high, and low - low.

The results were pretty much the same with no visible increase in terms of internet throughput as all results pegged at same 1mb sort of. However, I notice considerable, and unusual smoother throughput any-time the optimization is on. It's so strong, I could swear I had a internet bandwidth increase, ping time was at anall time low, pages were loading like they were on steroids but there was no visible internet increase at least from speedtest.net

Test result are also attached. Do you think this is to be expected?

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 12, 2015, 03:29:23 PM »
Thanks. I'll be dedicating a day next week to extensively test, I'll send in the results. 

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 12, 2015, 01:15:10 PM »
I do understand the WAN optimization as a site to multiple site and perharps the limitations applicable to a WISP environment, all the same if any kind of bandwidth savings can be achieved here, its worth it.

Moving forward, I take it that a high high config is better for my kind of deployment but when switching to plus, a better CPU say i7 or xenon will be better? Right, got that.

At the moment, I am only testing with an E1 (1mbps), however on migrating to Plus, I'll be using a DS3(45mbps). I guess I'll be contacting then for the low level setting and all...

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 12, 2015, 08:25:23 AM »
Thanks, peer staues is up. I though as much that the WAN interface for optimization should be sidewards facing...
Now that we've established connectivity, may I ask 3 questions for best practice for WISP.

1. What is the best recommended setting Between BTS for WISP? high - high, high - low, low - high  or low - low. (Main interest is throughput speed).

2. After testing and hopefully migrating to WANOS plus, what raw bandwidth should we look at theoretically to conservatively achieve a throughput of between 100 - 200mb with WANOS. Hardware are INTEL ATOM PROCESSOR C2750 (8 core) 32Gb ram, 1TB samsung evo pro SSD on each WANOS device

3. Any special config, routes settings etc that may be specifically helpful for PTP link on same subnet?

Thanks for the great work in WANOS

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 12, 2015, 05:34:57 AM »
During cabling, I made sure WAN0 was connected to the LAN router and LAN0 was connected to the PTP radio at BTS1 and also WAN0 connected to the PTP radio and LAN0 connected to the test PC at BTS2 using the Network interface on WANOS as guide. Just Checked the log and no peer detected on lan0 in the log? But traffic is definitely flowing in. Any suggestions? Can't wait to test...

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: January 11, 2015, 07:12:42 PM »
After several thoughts, I feel the best way to test is to place a WANOS device at my main basestation and place another WANOS device at my second base via PTP radio link. The problem is peering statues shows down. Although traffic passes through and I can access the internet over at second base, I can't see any optimization. I left the default setting and just changed to high on both side and also changed the WANOS IP to 192.168.1.200 and second to 192.168.1.201. I have attached a sketch. Am I missing something?

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: September 01, 2014, 02:06:51 PM »
Hmm, very interesting information. I want to thank you for your simplicity and response to all the questions. My gears should arrive this weekend or early next week then I can draw up a conclusion, until then, thanks and much appreciated.

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: September 01, 2014, 01:29:50 PM »
Question 2 is difficult to answer generally as most WISP deploy in different Topology. But for me, Clients CPE is open and can actually pull up to 90mb/s if allowed, however a bandwidth router mikrotik is place just before the basestation that regulate how much maximum bandwidth a client can pull.

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Deployment / Re: Simple case deployment
« on: September 01, 2014, 11:23:37 AM »
@ahenning
In the forum created at http://community.ubnt.com/t5/The-Lounge/WAN-Optimization-anyone-tried-this/m-p/988795#M34322 there are some school of though suggesting WAN optimization such as WANOS are not very relevant in an ISP arena, but I disagree thus this ambiguous question below:

In rural Africa where I operate in, the maximum bandwidth from our backbone at each base station is 45mb via satellite serving between 500 to 800 customer for up to 2mb/s per month. Now people in the West might cringe over the speed but trust me, its heaven here on our network simply because we are investing more in wan optimization such as caches,etc and most recently wanos(wan optimization). Now my question to you is would you totally rule out the possibility of using wanos by an WISP in cases where its not possible to  deploy an edge at clients side? if no, then as the developer, would you be willing to simulate or at least theoretically, explain the outcome and best config for an optimization within same Lan environment.

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Troubleshooting / Re: Network disconnect after sometime
« on: August 31, 2014, 04:57:43 PM »
Yea I agree with you. I can't really say much until I begin my test and see how it goes. I already create a thread on this on a WISP centric forum, hoping that other WISP will take interest and I think its already creating a buzz...

You might want to check it out http://community.ubnt.com/t5/The-Lounge/WAN-Optimization-anyone-tried-this/m-p/987759#U987759

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